David , would you happen to have pictures of the red form of M. ramiretzi you are talking about? They sound interesting. thx Yvan Alleau 712 NW Kings Blvd Corvallis, OR 97330 College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University office (Burt 222): 737-3649, to be used wisely! home: 738-0606 PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS: yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the essential" -----Original Message----- From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of David Sanchez Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 4:27 PM To: apisto@listbox.com Subject: Re: German Blue Rams/ Wild Caught... now wild variations Mike all of the Rams were very uniform in that they looked yellow as the male in the picture. The females Mike had very distinct blue spots even more then the male in the pic so to me it was not that diffrent because the females blue spots were even more distinct. Any idea about of a "more red" wild ram. I once had some I swear had a redish hugh to them they were pretty nice. Dave Sanchez --- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@fgn.net> wrote: > Dave, > > Were the other Rams that came in with this fish all > the same color? BTW, it's > the strangest looking male I've ever seen. The blue > scales throughout the flank > spot are typical of every female Ram I've ever seen. > > Mike Wise > > David Sanchez wrote: > > > hereis the link for the pic of the wild yellow ram > I > > am talking about > > http://www.geocities.com/barbax2/yellow_ram_2.jpg > > > > Dave Sanchez > > > > --- David Sanchez <barbax2@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I have a question for us all out there in Apisto > > > world. Perhaps Mike W could be of use here we > have > > > been talking about population or geographic > > > difrrences > > > with our fish. I know that wild rams come in > many > > > shapes and sizes. I have seen wild rams with > allot > > > of > > > red on them and wild rams with more blue I have > also > > > seen wild rams that were almost yellow! > > > Hedre is a pic of a colubian ram I dont know the > > > location but I do know they came from Columbia > and > > > this is a wild ram! this is the father of my > Gold > > > ram > > > line I have been line breeding. so anyone else > have > > > thoughts on Ram population variations. The > prettiest > > > Rams I ever saw were ones that I could only > describe > > > as being mostly red all ove rthey had a red > kinda > > > glow > > > to them of course this is all subtle and shows > best > > > when they are in the proper environment. > > > > > > Dave Sanchez > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or > unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > Trading at > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe > or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader