Re: German Blue Rams/ Wild Caught... now wild variations

["The Harpers" <harpers1@hotkey.net.au>]

Hi Yvan,
Sorry for the late reply but I haven't checked my email for ages.  I've seen
a picture of a red looking ram a while ago and have found where i think I
saw it.  I'm not sure if this is what Dave means but it's the only one I've
seen.  I saw it in Innes's exotic aquarium fishes : a work of general
reference by Innes, William Thornton.

Hope this helps,
Alex
----- Original Message -----
From: Yvan Alleau <yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu>
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:24 AM
Subject: RE: German Blue Rams/ Wild Caught... now wild variations


> David ,
> would you happen to have pictures of the red form of M. ramiretzi you are
> talking about?
> They  sound interesting.
> thx
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com
> [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of David Sanchez
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 4:27 PM
> To: apisto@listbox.com
> Subject: Re: German Blue Rams/ Wild Caught... now wild variations
>
>
> Mike all of the Rams were very uniform in that they
> looked yellow as the male in the picture. The females
> Mike had very distinct blue spots even more then the
> male in the pic so to me it was not that diffrent
> because the females blue spots were even more
> distinct. Any idea about of a "more red" wild ram. I
> once had some I swear had a redish hugh to them they
> were pretty nice.
>
> Dave Sanchez
>
>
>
> --- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@fgn.net> wrote:
> > Dave,
> >
> > Were the other Rams that came in with this fish all
> > the same color? BTW, it's
> > the strangest looking male I've ever seen. The blue
> > scales throughout the flank
> > spot are typical of every female Ram I've ever seen.
> >
> > Mike Wise
> >
> > David Sanchez wrote:
> >
> > > hereis the link for the pic of the wild yellow ram
> > I
> > > am talking about
> > > http://www.geocities.com/barbax2/yellow_ram_2.jpg
> > >
> > > Dave Sanchez
> > >
> > > --- David Sanchez <barbax2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > I have a question for us all out there in Apisto
> > > > world. Perhaps Mike W could be of use here we
> > have
> > > > been talking about population or geographic
> > > > difrrences
> > > > with our fish. I know that wild rams come in
> > many
> > > > shapes and sizes. I have seen wild rams with
> > allot
> > > > of
> > > > red on them and wild rams with more blue I have
> > also
> > > > seen wild rams that were almost yellow!
> > > > Hedre is a pic of a colubian ram I dont know the
> > > > location but I do know they came from Columbia
> > and
> > > > this is a wild ram! this is the father of my
> > Gold
> > > > ram
> > > > line I have been line breeding. so anyone else
> > have
> > > > thoughts on Ram population variations. The
> > prettiest
> > > > Rams I ever saw were ones that I could only
> > describe
> > > > as being mostly red all ove rthey had a red
> > kinda
> > > > glow
> > > > to them of course this is all subtle and shows
> > best
> > > > when they are in the proper environment.
> > > >
> > > > Dave Sanchez
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