Folks............I REALLY didn't want to start any arguments with this........I've done killies for some 30 years as well as apistos......and when a killie guy takes off and crosses different locations of a fish it's simply called an "aquarium strain"...they are often as pretty as the original and sometimes easier to work with....it's as simple as that....they only cause problems when people lie about things and if people are going to lie then you are never going to stop that anyway..................and I certainly meant no disrespect to Romer's words and cautions about not crossing populations........just food for thought......I guess there is too much adventure in me!!! Mike W. ......................that's a nifty history and very very interesting! I fancy myself as a breeder.....I love to breed fish......I think that means that they are happy. It's stories like the Huser aggie that really interest me..........some day when I'm OLDER and grayer I'll set my mind to it and make a red, white and blue aggie..........just kidding........!!! You Folks have a great weekend......................set your clocks back!! Mike Mike Jacobs SOUTHERN APISTOS The Inca 50's are IN STOCK Wild Peruvian Imports...Plus http://www.southernapistos.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@fgn.net> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:36 PM Subject: Re: unknown aggies Mike, The Hüser Red Agassizii is an extremely beautiful strain of aggie with a bluish body and solid red tail (except for the black extension of the lateral band in the tail). For many years it was found in the former East Germany where an expert breeder named Hüser fixed the strain from various populations of wild & domestic A. agassizii, I guess. Koslowski (2002) writes: "Red A. agassizii, widely distributed in the hobby, are the product of careful breeding & represent a highly developed form like no distinct population occurring in nature. The origin of the red aquarium strain is unknown, although it appears to be the result of crossing of different morphs (Krämer, pers. comm.)." There are wild populations of red tail agassizii known from the Rio Supay, Nanay, Ampiyacu & Maniti systems of Peru, but it is rare to see a deep red tail & even rarer to have a red tail with red in the dorsal & anal fins. Mike Wise Mike Jacobs wrote: > Mike W. .......do you know the history of the Huser aggie.....maybe we could > start there? > > Mike > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader