Re: Who get to decide what is a new Apisto sp?

["Kelly Higgins" <kelly_higgins@cox.net>]

For those interested you can see the sp. in question at these links.
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwcichlids&1040065611

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwcichlids&1040065787

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwcichlids&1040066078

http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/auction.cgi?fwcichlids&1040066305

Kelly Higgins
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@fgn.net>
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Who get to decide what is a new Apisto sp?


> For all those with the same question, here was my
> reply to Yvan Alleau earlier this evening:
>
> Yvan,
>
> The pictures are not the best, but based on them I
> would say that A. sp. Paracas
> & Kiko are forms of A. cf. eunotus
> Orange-tail/Orangeschwanz. They look very
> much like the A. sp. Willy form.
>
> A. sp. Marie is a form of A. bitaeniata, probably
> from around Iquitos.
> [Kelly - I, too, was tempted to say A. mendezi
> because it comes from the Rio Marie among other
> places. But enlarging & sharpening the picture
> shows that this fish has extended anterior dorsal
> spines found only on A. bitaeniata.]
>
> A. sp. Hauswell is something new. It could be a
> color variant of A. sp.
> Mouthbrooder/Maulbrüter or something related to A.
> atahualpa. Of the 4 fish this
> is the one of which I would be most interested in
> seeing better photos. Hope
> this helps.
>
> Mike
>
> p.s. Who is selling these fish?
>
> [Ade - A. sp. Melgar is the same as A. sp. Nanay
> (Melgar), different from A. sp. Nanay (Römer)
> which is A. sp. Parrot/Papagei. A. sp. Apache is
> the same as A. sp. Masked/Masken or the fish
> presently coming in as Carapintada (It used to be
> Angle-patch/Winkelfleck that first came in as
> Carapintada.)]
>
> Who gets to name fish. Well that's simple; anyone
> who wants to. These are all probably Peruvian.
> Most of the Peruvian exporters name their fish on
> a whim. It's always best to see before you buy if
> possible. Otherwise you could be buying something
> you already have.
>
> If you think this is bad, you should see the
> comments on Apistogramma rubrolineata, a very good
> looking newly 'scientifically' described species.
> It is a valid name even though it was published in
> an hobby magazine & didn't pass muster from any of
> the cichlid taxonomists who have seen the paper.
>
> Mike Wise
>
> JerrCarol@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Howdy folks,
> >   I'll start with my Just curious opening. I saw
> > these fish for sale. Well, actually I saw poor
> > pictures of them anyhow. Are these for real or
> > is someone just attaching names to little fish
> > from Peru? They are supposed to be wild caught.
> >
> > Apisto sp paracas
> > "    "    sp hauswell
> > "    "    sp marie (I like that one must be like
> > what Agassizi with the Elizabethae.<G>)
> > Apisto sp kiko   (not a copy center)
> >   There are so many now even the few little
> > books I have including Romer can't keep up. Oh
> > well just thought I'd ask. Have a good weekend
> > all.
> >
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> >                     Jerry*B*
> >
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