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Re: Who get to decide what is a new Apisto sp?
Kelly,
I assume you tried to contact me through my ISP's address & got it bounced back.
My email address is apistowise@bewellnet.com. If you lose it you can always look
it up on the ASG web site www.apisto.com.
best wishes,
Mike
Kelly Higgins wrote:
> Mike,
> Can you contact me off list.
> Thanks,
> kelly_higgins@cox.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@fgn.net>
> To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Who get to decide what is a new Apisto sp?
>
> > For all those with the same question, here was my
> > reply to Yvan Alleau earlier this evening:
> >
> > Yvan,
> >
> > The pictures are not the best, but based on them I
> > would say that A. sp. Paracas
> > & Kiko are forms of A. cf. eunotus
> > Orange-tail/Orangeschwanz. They look very
> > much like the A. sp. Willy form.
> >
> > A. sp. Marie is a form of A. bitaeniata, probably
> > from around Iquitos.
> > [Kelly - I, too, was tempted to say A. mendezi
> > because it comes from the Rio Marie among other
> > places. But enlarging & sharpening the picture
> > shows that this fish has extended anterior dorsal
> > spines found only on A. bitaeniata.]
> >
> > A. sp. Hauswell is something new. It could be a
> > color variant of A. sp.
> > Mouthbrooder/Maulbrüter or something related to A.
> > atahualpa. Of the 4 fish this
> > is the one of which I would be most interested in
> > seeing better photos. Hope
> > this helps.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > p.s. Who is selling these fish?
> >
> > [Ade - A. sp. Melgar is the same as A. sp. Nanay
> > (Melgar), different from A. sp. Nanay (Römer)
> > which is A. sp. Parrot/Papagei. A. sp. Apache is
> > the same as A. sp. Masked/Masken or the fish
> > presently coming in as Carapintada (It used to be
> > Angle-patch/Winkelfleck that first came in as
> > Carapintada.)]
> >
> > Who gets to name fish. Well that's simple; anyone
> > who wants to. These are all probably Peruvian.
> > Most of the Peruvian exporters name their fish on
> > a whim. It's always best to see before you buy if
> > possible. Otherwise you could be buying something
> > you already have.
> >
> > If you think this is bad, you should see the
> > comments on Apistogramma rubrolineata, a very good
> > looking newly 'scientifically' described species.
> > It is a valid name even though it was published in
> > an hobby magazine & didn't pass muster from any of
> > the cichlid taxonomists who have seen the paper.
> >
> > Mike Wise
> >
> > JerrCarol@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > Howdy folks,
> > > I'll start with my Just curious opening. I saw
> > > these fish for sale. Well, actually I saw poor
> > > pictures of them anyhow. Are these for real or
> > > is someone just attaching names to little fish
> > > from Peru? They are supposed to be wild caught.
> > >
> > > Apisto sp paracas
> > > " " sp hauswell
> > > " " sp marie (I like that one must be like
> > > what Agassizi with the Elizabethae.<G>)
> > > Apisto sp kiko (not a copy center)
> > > There are so many now even the few little
> > > books I have including Romer can't keep up. Oh
> > > well just thought I'd ask. Have a good weekend
> > > all.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jerry*B*
> > >
> > >
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> > > and shot him...... **
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