Colin, Are you certain that you fish is A. steindachneri? Could it be A. rupununi, a similar species that has a round to squared off tail? Every male A. steindachneri I've ever seen has had a double tipped tail fin once it matured. Mike Wise Colin Gorton wrote: > These come from similar conditions to > Cacatuoides. Pretty fish and I've found them > quite easy to breed. They turn a really handsome > gold colour. I've also found that the strain > that I have doesn't have the lyreate tail, the > giveaway is the position of the lateral spot (I > believe it lies ON the lateral line with > Steindachneri and ABOVE the line with Rupununi.) > > C:-)lin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kelly Higgins" > Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:16:58 -0600 > To: "Apisto" > Subject: A. Ortmanni now A. steindachneri > > Mike, Bailin,After looking at everything Bailin > sent me and My own books I have Identified these > fish as steindachneri. The male is just now > getting a lyerate tail which is the tell off on > this fish. They are just little brown fish, but > I am still enjoying them and hope they color up > a bit. I have them in black water with peat and > oak leaves. My book didnt say weather this was a > black water sp. or not however so I guessed. > Kelly Higgins > > C:-)lin > > They said "Smile, things could be worse." So I smiled, and sure enough... > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net > Powered by Outblaze > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, > apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to > subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > apisto-request@listbox.com. > apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web > archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader