1 I'm sure it came in on the leaves, primarily because in that tank the fish have been healthy for at least months. 2 It wasn't a slug 3 It was alive 4 I'not sure it was harmful (in fact I'm pretty sure it wasn't 'cause it had had a week to attach itself to a fish and it hadn't done so. 5 It WAS a warning to sterilise leaves before adding them to a take (or that's how I'm taking it) 6 Maybe it was a nematode? I know that there is a huge variety of nematodes, only a very few are harmful to fish. C:-)lin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt & Linda Crocker" <crockerm@peak.org> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 15:20:18 -0800 To: <apisto@listbox.com> Subject: Re: leaf prep(sterilization) > Colin, > > Did you see the critter come in on the leaves? Or do you think it > must have? Maybe it was a slug? Was it still alive? > > I put some leaves in my A panduro tank last week without doing any > sterilizing and now I'm worried. It looks very natural in the tank now > and I really like the looks, I'm going to go out and get some more. > > I wonder what cooked oak leaves smell like. > > Matt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Gorton" <mr_apisto@graffiti.net> > To: <apisto@listbox.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 12:00 PM > Subject: RE: leaf prep(sterilization) > > > > I don't know hat it was but I just got rid of some sort of worm > (leach?) from oak leaves that I collected from a VERY dry site. It had > been in the tank for a week or so. I'll certainly be boiling all my > leaves in future. I must admit I found it hard to believe it when I saw > it. > > C:)lin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Yvan Alleau" <yalleau@coas.oregonstate.edu> > > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:10:06 -0800 > > To: <apisto@listbox.com> > > Subject: RE: leaf prep(sterilization) > > > > > Hi Matt, > > > I would at least boil them in order to get read of all/most of the > bacteria, > > > fungi and small bugs (parasite) that they contain. > > > It is unlikely however that these critters would survive in an > aquatic > > > medium if you collected the leaves on land. If collected in swamps, > river > > > bed, wet banks, ponds, etc.. i would think that their hosts would be > adapted > > > to living under water and would therefore be more of a threat. > > > I think that boiling them will also remove some of the tanin they > contain, > > > so if you are choosing them for that aspect more than for the > habitat (and > > > look) they will create, do not boil them for too long. Boiling them > would > > > also make them sink. > > > have a good we > > > c ya > > > > > > Yvan Alleau > > > 450 SE Atwood Ave > > > Corvallis, OR 97333 > > > (541) 752-0320 > > > > > > College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences > > > Oregon State University > > > Burt 222: (541) 737-3649 > > > > > > "When you're far from everything, you're getting closer to the > essential" > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com > > > [mailto:owner-apisto@admin.listbox.com]On Behalf Of Matt & Linda > Crocker > > > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:31 AM > > > To: apisto list > > > Subject: leaf prep(sterilization) > > > > > > > > > I have more oak leaves than I can use, and more than I want to > rake. > > > Do these need to be sterilized? Or just use them right out of the > yard? > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also > available. > > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also > available. > > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > > > > > > > > > C:-)lin > > > > They said "Smile, things could be worse." So I smiled, and sure > enough... > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net > > > > Powered by Outblaze > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also > available. > > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto > Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > C:-)lin They said "Smile, things could be worse." 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