Hey All - Well, I've suffered my last problem with MindSpring, and I hate having to leave an address that's been maintained for so many years, but I'm moving to BellSouth as an ISP. Changing addys means testing some of my subscriptions for continuity, but in this case it also allows the opportunity to ask a general question concerning Apisto biology and biotopes. Many of the Apistos we keep seem to have a skewed sex ratio within brood batches that varies with temperature. Mayland and Bork reported on Uwe Romer's studies, and we've bandied them about at times, and the pattern seems to follow that the cooler the water the greater the percentage of females. I've also noted it within my own breeding efforts, and it's an easily observed phenomenon in my tanks as I tend to keep them on the cooler side to extend the Apistos' longevity somewhat. And I've been pondering the situation a little but can't come to any definite conclusions because I'm lacking some fairly basic information that would help lead to an end point. The evolutionary reason behind the ratios could depend on one of two logical factors. It could be an effort to ensure the availability of ripe females for the shorter-lived males (whose colors, etc. tend to cause them to become snacks more often than females) or it could be a way to extend the genetic pool by allowing females more time to expand their territories before encountering a male. I know that some plants with the capability of self-fertilization often have their male and female structures mature at different times to prevent inbreeding as a rule of habit. This usually means the males first so that the pollen can travel some distance from the originating stand and ensure genetic diversity. Something along these lines could be at work within the genus Apistogramma, leading to the thought of extended territories. In our own efforts, when a breeding doesn't "work" we often assume the male isn't "ready", but perhaps instead the _females_ (which most often come from the same broods and have the same time for development with us) are the true culprits. Is there a source of field collection data that samples the environments at times _other_ than prime collection periods? I know that Apistos, like other Amazonian fish, are far easier to collect during the dry season when water levels are down and populations are concentrated, and conversely the wet season makes collection nearly impossible in a lot of areas. But perhaps some of the collectors are out there getting "early starts" on the season and have some of this data within their field notes. It would be an interesting exercise (at least to me) to try to see how much time the females would normally have to populate and spread through an area before the warming waters start to increase the population of the males... David A. Youngker youngker@bellsouth.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader