Hello Alan Welcome to the apisto world.... soon to be your obsession ..... lol ... just kidding. As for live foods you can culture yourself... white worm cultures are easy... so are grindal worms... and microworms....These along with newly hatched brine shrimp so do you just fine. Frozen blood worms and frozen daphnia make good foods also.... by the sounds of it, you have a fridge in that "fishroom" of yours?? If so, you're set for you food cultures.... grindal and microworms are best at room temperature.. white worms you want between 55 and 65 F... cooler is necessary to get them growing fine. The freezer will house all your frozen stuff so the wife wont get mad looking at frozen blood worms.... Good luck with you fish set up... keep us posted to how you do.... always willing to answer questions too... Tundra John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader