Re: Help with ID

[Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>]

Ghazanfar,

I looked at your latest photos. It certainly is
not A. pleurotaenia, a species
that is known only from female type specimens with
4 anal spines. Your fish have
3. It is definitely a resticulosa-complex species.
It has all of the diagnostic
feature for this species-complex.  It is not A.
sp. Wangenflecken/Cheek-spots.
Cheek-spots has a lateral band that ends in Bar 6.
Your fish's band end in Bar
7. My best guess is that it is a form of A.
taeniata Type 1. I cannot be certain
which one it is from the photos, however.
Koslowski pictures about a dozen
similar species (A. resticulosa & A. taeniata) in
his book. Caudal spot varies with form. If I were
you I
would just call it "A. cf. taeniata".

Mike Wise

Ghazanfar Khan Ghori wrote:

> Ok. I pulled the fish and put them into a 2.5,
> blew them around for a few minutes with a turkey baster.
> Took some pics...
> Heres what I got...
>
> http://www.aquaticscape.com/offsite/apisto_sp_male1.jpg
> This picture is the only one taken with a flash.
>
> http://www.aquaticscape.com/offsite/apisto_sp_male2.jpg
> Notice the slight vertical banding the the claudal fin
>
> http://www.aquaticscape.com/offsite/apisto_sp_female.jpg
> ...and the female
>
> Any ideas? The spawn pretty easy in my 10G tank. I've
> left all their broods in there with them - two successful
> successive broods growing up in there. Actually, they
> were so good at parenting - I tossed in some laetacara fry
> since my laetacara suck as parents. They're in there growing
> up too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-apisto@v2.listbox.com [mailto:owner-apisto@v2.listbox.com]On
> Behalf Of Ghazanfar Ghori
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:25 PM
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> Subject: Re: Help with ID
>
> The blue on the body only shows up in pictures, when looking at the fish
> it's mostly a gray body with blue and red marking on the face. I'll try to
> take a picture of it in fright pattern - easy enough.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@bewellnet.com>
> To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Help with ID
>
> > Ghazanfar,
> >
> > No, they are ot A. caetei, nor A. sp. Pebas either. Both of these species
> show
> > banding on the caudal fin. The flank color is disturbingly very similar to
> that
> > of the Bluehead/Steel-blue Apisto, but it is not as deep-bodied or
> laterally
> > compressed. In many respects it appears to be some form of A. taeniata,
> but it
> > is hard to say for sure. The bright blue color masks most of the
> diagnostic dark
> > markings. I would need to see this fish in its fright pattern, showing its
> dark
> > markings to be sure. Still, I do not believe that this is a wild form of
> apisto,
> > but a domestically 'enhanced' fish. Right now, based on what I can see, it
> is
> > either a color enhanced species of the resticulosa-complex or a cross
> between
> > the Bluehead & a resticulosa-complex fish. It obviously is different from
> the
> > Bluehead, which as a striped tail.
> >
> > Mike Wise
> >
> > Ghazanfar Ghori wrote:
> >
> > > I obtained a pair of these fish from my LFS a few months ago. They were
> > > labelled 'Blue Face Apisto'
> > > with no latin name. Here's a couple of pictures of the male....
> > >
> > > http://www.aquaticscape.com/offsite/apisto1.jpg
> > >
> > > http://www.aquaticscape.com/offsite/apisto2.jpg
> > >
> > > They seem easy to breed...they've spawned several times now. First batch
> was
> > > eaten, though
> > > the other two batches are doing well. Spawning at pH 5.5 always on the
> > > outside of the claypot I've
> > > provided them.
> > >
> > > Any idea what they are? I was thinking a. caetei but I'm not sure...
> > >
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