Hi all, I must say I'm pretty confused with my sp. "Miua". I went through the whole net and feel lost. Pls help. I had already wrote this before, but just to remind (if anyone remembers ;-): I have a trio with only one female (at least that's what I thought up till now). The males have orange cheeks and a few slighlty extended rays in the middle of caudal fins. the female doesn't have the orange cheeks, but she has nice orange inferior and superior fringes of the caudal. the rays of the caudal fins are also a bit (less than the males) extended. She is almost the same size as the males - perhaps 1/5 inch smaller. I never made them spawn, so I haven't seen her in the "wedding dress". there are no other differencies. I remember seeing some photos showing those fish and identifying them as adequately male and female, but they shown younger fish. Now what I read? The female should be about 2" TL in comparison to male's 3. furthermore I don't see any more photos of females with orange fringes on the caudal. Is it possible, that I have 3 males and the species is so polychromatic? I have some photos, of poor quality, but showing the fish quite well (max 70kb/photo). If only someone would be so kind as to put it on a web I would send them to support my words. Anyone still with me? :-) Thanks in advance for any help in clarifying the issue. Perhaps the species info can be updated with the information from this thread? Regards Greg Grzegorz Prusinowski www.apisto.pl ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader