Thank you, John and Mike. This fish does not seem to be so rare in Japan but rather pricey for a characin (1000 to 1500 yens per fish.) I thought they would look absolutely stunning in my 75G planted tank. Since neon tetra does not do very well in this tank for a reason unbeknownst to me (they will always take apistos down with them), I thought I give small colorful characin a try. Can you recommend small colorful schooling fish by any chance? Tomoko ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader