Jim Neuner
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 05:46 PM, Mike & Diane Wise wrote:
Per,
According to Koslowsk (2002) A. sp. Pimental (correct spelling) is actually a geographic population of A. cf. pertensis from the lower Rio Tapajós of Brazil. A. cf. pertensis was the fish originally thought to be A. meinkeni until Koslowski (1985) proved that it didn't conform to the true meinkeni. Then it was called A. cf. meinkeni. Römer introduced live specimens of the true A. meinkeni into the hobby in the late 90s & showing it was a true dwarf apisto, which Pimental is not. Males can reach almost 6 cm long. This form remains smaller than some other geographic forms, but grows larger than others (like A. sp. Orange-seam/Orangesaum, Minima, White-seam/Weißsaum). I guess it would more accurately called A. cf. pertensis (Pimental).
I bet that Pete's fish came from Trop Rio/Apisto Heaven (Rio de Janeiro). Marco Lacerda tends to go out & find the rare ones. Oliver brings in his fish, I think.
Mike Wise
Per Wigstal wrote:
Hi
You have found one of the species on my top five list! But I live in Sweden so I will not be able to buy the remaining three :-(
Do you have any idea from what exporter in South america these fishes came from? Can you check?
We have a nice shop in south of sweden who is regulary importing apistos from S-A. So perhaps they can also get hold of some pimentel.
I will get a box of wildcaught Ap. Commbrae next week from them! And the Commbrae have been no. one on my list for at least five years.
Well, take good care of your Ap. sp. Pimentel. It seems to be a very interesting species. Get some fry´s from them and spread them around. Perhaps some will end up in Sweden :-)
Best regards/ Per
"Liptrot, Pete" <pete.liptrot@bolton.gov.uk> wrote:
Picked up four of these over the weekend, lovely little fish.
They were mixed in with a shipment of Tapajos Dicrossus, just as suggested
in the Atlas. They are in an aquarium with a good four inches of leaf
litter, and they are demonstrating just how well they can use this sort of
substrate. There are still three left at the dealer if anyone else wants to
have a try with them.
Pete
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