hi all--please can you confirm this test is received having trouble this end thank you for your trouble--scouse RAY----rbnw34747@blueyonder.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@bewellnet.com> To: <apisto@v2.listbox.com> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: Re: Hard Shelled Eggs? > Bob, > > In one of the volumes of "Breeding Aquarium Fishes" (I forget which > one), there is a chapter on breeding Chilodus punctatus. In it the > author reports that he had the same problem. He even went so far as to > break open the eggs with dissecting needles (under a microscope!) to > release the fry. He believed that it was due to water conditions - > probably too hard - that hardened the outer membrane of the egg. I find > it hard to believe that a clearwater fish like A. sp. Xingu would have > this problem, but who knows? Maybe there's some trace element in your > water that's hardening the eggs. > > Mike Wise > > Bob Wiltshire wrote: > > >Not much action on the board so I will throw this out > >for comment. > > > >I am having trouble with my A. sp. Rio Xingu "red > >lobes". I have kept them for many years and have never > >had problems until recently. I have not had a > >successful spawn in nearly a year. I have three > >breeding set ups with pairs or groups. The females > >spawn repeatedly but never produce fry. I have begun > >pulling eggs because I need to get a young generation > >to perpetuate the strain. > > > >None of the eggs I pull hatch. After about 24 hours a > >few fungus which I expect as normal, non fertile eggs. > >The rest stay cherry red and appear to be developing. > >However, they never hatch. > > > >After three days I begin providing occaisional water > >current on the eggs to help them hatch. I use airline > >tubing to blow a jet of water directly onto the eggs. > >I have used this technique for years to help with > >problem hatchers. > > > >After four or so days the eggs get blown from the rock > >but do not hatch. However, at this point they are > >still red, non fungused and appear to be fertile. > >Within a few more days they all gradually fungus. My > >best guess is that for some reason they are not > >breaking the egg shell to emerge. > > > >This is a repeating pattern with multiple male/female > >combinations. These are not sibling crosses but are > >from the sam lineage several generations back. This is > >not a problem with any of my other Apisto species. > > > >Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > >http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > >instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > >apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > >Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > >http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For > instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email > apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. > Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at > http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader