Hi All, I have some questions about general information for breeding Microgeophagus Ramirezi. I just got two Rams (the golden morph). I'm hoping they are male and female, but this could be wrong. The basic difference between the two is the dorsal fin on what I think is the mail is longer at the back, and the caudal fin is longer (and also slightly tattered). Right now I have the Ph down at about 6.5 and I'm trying to slowly lower it to the 6.0 to 5.5 range. I've got the two of them in a 20 gallon tank, all alone except for one zebra danio. In the tank there are some plastic plants, one large 'hiding place' rock, and a few small flat rocks intended as potential spawning sights. My basic question is: Does this setup sound like a place the fish would try and breed? Should the zebra danio be moved to another tank? How do I lower the Hardness of the water? (right now its about 120-140 ppm (about 6-8 dH)). Are my Ph goals sufficient? I'm using a chemical to lower my Ph, would I have better luck with peat Moss? I Know these guys are only close to apistos but I figure someone out here should know. Thanks in advance for the advice. Thanks, Kevin Goodman goodke@netcom.com