On Sat, 01 Feb 1997 23:41:51 +0900, Francis Brian O'Carroll wrote: >german rams - 3500/pr >dutch rams - 2800/pr I went into a local shop a couple of days ago. It was mostly cichlids and goldfish and the proprietor said that he and his friends had raised most of them. There were some very nice discus, but what really blew me away was four rams that were about 3-4" long! I have never seen anything like them. He said he fed them beefheart because they ate so much. Has anyone seen them this large? The body height was over 2"! Dave Dave Gomberg, FormMaestro! San Francisco CA USA gomberg@wcf.com ============ Reminder: Kindly quote parsimoniously when replying ============= This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@aquaria.net. To subscribe or unsubscribe or get help , send the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" or "help" in the body (not subject) to apisto-request@aquaria.net