Hi all, I've been following this thread with interest, and a question has occurred to me. Personally, I've found njisseni and pandurini (especially the latter) to be pretty rowdy in relation to most other apistos. The exception is cacatuoides, who have surprised me a few times. I have juruensis, but only males, from the cacatuoides complex, and I have no patterns to report there. But is it the cacatuoides complex we're touching on here, or just the njisseni/pandurini corner of it? Certainly, other than occasional nastiness from geisleri, the apistos I've kept from other complexes have been pretty relaxed characters in comparison with the cactuoides/njisseni group. I've had peaceful, and rough njisseni, timid and perfectly brazen pandurini, so even within species, there's variation among individual fish. Still, it borders on a pattern for me. Any comments out there? Gary (Mtl) ----------- Reminder: Kindly quote parsimoniously when replying ------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@aquaria.net. To subscribe or unsubscribe or get help , send the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" or "help" in the body (not subject) to apisto-request@aquaria.net