On Wed, 19 Mar 1997 Rusty Witek writes: I've alwayswanted to keep apistos, but haven't had any success, and I'd like some advice on whether it's even worth trying for me. Our water here ranges from c. 7.4-7.7 and is hard. I once mail ordered 10 A. borelli, which I understood were acceptable for my PH, but they gradually died over the course of 6 months or so. So I have some basic questions, which will no doubt lead to others: 1) Is it possible to keep any species of apistos in this water? My single cichlid-keeping trick has always been Regular Partial Water Changes, so manipulating the PH has always been a losing proposition: just about the time I finally get the tank's PH down a bit, it's time to do water changes. First, you say that manipulating the PH has been a losing proposition.My suggestion would be to prepare your water before puting it in the tank for what ever apistos you choose. I use a 50/50 mix of Reverse Osmosis water and tap water. A local store carries the water for 39 cents a gallon. Check around. If not buy a R.O. unit if it is in your means. Some of my apistos have tolerated higher PH levels in the past but now seem to enjoy lower PH. 2) Is live food a must for keeping (as opposed to spawning) apistos? I don't mind working at my fishkeeping, but my attempts at keeping a steady supply of baby brine on hand have made the task seem pretty onerous. Live food is a definite plus especially if breeding is your intention. Flake and pellets do work too. If baby brine is a hassle to keep handy every day like it is for me, I would feed them it at least a half dozen times a month. Hope that this helps, Phillip J.Ryti rytireefs@juno.com ----------- Reminder: Kindly quote parsimoniously when replying ------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@aquaria.net. To subscribe or unsubscribe or get help , send the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" or "help" in the body (not subject) to apisto-request@aquaria.net ----------- Reminder: Kindly quote parsimoniously when replying ------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@aquaria.net. To subscribe or unsubscribe or get help , send the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" or "help" in the body (not subject) to apisto-request@aquaria.net