Hi all, So far, I'm pleased with the potential Pete's laetecara posting opened up. That apistos ship like killies is an interesting statement - backed up with people's experience, I think we have something. If we buy in good faith, sell in good faith, and don't flame each other when we hit bumps in the road, this could be an excellent addition to the list. I could even drive down to the States to mail stuff! If Wright would make his article available to all, I think we could all start experimenting. My N taenia, wild cacatuoides, double-reds, pandurini, and pucallpaensis are set up to breed... More fry, I need MORE!!! Gary (Montreal)