Fwd: RE: Re: Mysterious post-spawning disease

["Ed Pon" <edpon@hotmail.com>]

><snip>I noticed the problem in pandurinis that were wild-caught.
>
>Was the problem you noticed dropsy, or was it the 
>death-without-physical-aberation problem I discussed yesterday. 
I didn't realize the death-without-physical-aberation problem was 
different than what we have been talking about and referred to as 
dropsy.  I never saw any of the scales start popping out like a 
porcupine on any of the dead fish.  The fish started with listlessness, 
gaping mouth, breathing hard, and died, in about two to five days.  
Most, I don't totally recall if all, of the fish that died were male and 
had spawned recently.

> Tubifex/blackworms are routinely discussed as bad for many fish - I do 
not 
>feed them to anything but corydoras and occasionally, killifish 
(without 
>incident).

As a former Tanganyikan cichlid aficianado,  I kept, usually for a short 
time, Tropheus Moori species.  These fishs were notorious for getting 
bloat.  Feeding tubifex was the kiss-of-death for them.  In reading 
through Brichard's first book on Tanganyikan cichlids, and noting the 
length of the intestinal tracts of various Tanganyikan cichlids that 
Brichard listed in the descriptions,  there seemed to be a correlation 
between length of the intestinal tract, carnivorous versus herbivorous 
diets, and susceptibility to bloat.  The fish with intestinal lengths 
that exceeded the length of the fish generally had a large amount of 
vegetable matter in their natural diets and died at the sight of tubifex 
or black worms.  The Lamprogines had short intestinal tract lengths, 
less than 100% of the total length of the fish, and were impervious to 
any amount of tubifex fed to them.
>
><snip> I am growing a small quantity of pandurini babies and am waiting 
to 
>see if this mysterious disease will catch up with them.
>
>How big are the babies right now?  Let us know if you have problems 
later - 
>I saw my problem when they reached 3/4 - 1" and were just beginning to 
>clearly sex out.
>
>Tom
>
Tne baby pandurinis are at about 3/4 to 1".  I think I count about seven 
of them.  I think I started with 9 or 10, but I have not really watched 
them to see if any have died, and what are the circumstances.  I need to 
move them to a tank where I can watch them a little better.