IDMiamiBob@aol.com wrote: > These Ayacucho may be closely related to agasizzii. I was at Dave > Soares's > place in March and saw A. gephyra in a tank right next to A.agasizzii > "Rio > Tefe" and except for the labels on the tank, the two were identical. > How > they are distinguished is beyond me. The two are quite distinguishable. [1] A. gephyra's ventrals are much shorter and have minimal extentions (adult males). [2] The pattern in the caudal for gephyra has spots on the upper portion but not on the lower. [3] The shape of the gephyra's caudal is shorter and more rounded. Also, I seem to see the dorsal extension going back farther in agassizi, but this feature is not as distinguishable as are the first three features. This distinction is clear in Linke. What about the Aqualog. Page 34 shows a spectacular gephyra. On page 36, the upper right fish betrays the other gephyra on the bottom row of that page. The upper right picture follows agassizii in all three accounts (longer ventrals, lack of upper caudal pattern, and a more pointed caudal. I'll assume it is actually a misidentified agassizii. I had previously recognized the aqualog betraying the distinctions noted by Linke in macmasteri and viejita. An associate of Linke argued that the Staeck/Linke book is correct. He informed me that the Czechs often inter-breed various species of this complex, so domestically obtained specimens might lose the distinction of a species. Have photo's of these cross-breeds found a way into the Aqualog?!? As I suggested earlier, refer to Staeck/Linke before the Aqualog. - --Randy