>>Great post, Bill. I once was at the stage where I was trying to do too much...<< Thanks, Rusty. It's easy to forget how valuable experience can be. I also started keeping killifish, some of which spawn in nylon mops made of yarn. It took me a few email posts and a good part of an evening to do something an old pro could probably crank out in a few minutes with his or her eyes closed. >>On the other hand, I still would *love* to shed that brown thumb--a thickly planted tank is a beauty I've never been able to maintain. :-)<< Unfortunately, my brown thumb extends outside of my house as well <g>. Bill Vannerson McHenry, IL USA http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/William_Vannerson (updated 10/21/97)