I used to breed Nanochromis transvestitus (a west African dwarf cichlid) at a pH around 4.5. I used heavy peat filtration to maintain the pH. In a 20 gallon, I used a backfilter (a medium sized aquaclear I think) filled with a lot of peat. I prepared the peat before hand by briefly chopping it up in a blender. The blender prep. makes the peat more effective, more quickly. Another alternative is to use 2 products, put out by Kent I believe, called Neutral Regulator and Discus Buffer. By combining these buffers in different ratios, you can achieve a wide range of stable pH's. Mike - ------------------------------------ Dept. of Ecology & Evol. Biology, MS-170 Rice University 135 Anderson Biology Lab 6100 Main Houston, TX. 77005-1892 Ph: (713)527-4919 fax: (713)285-5232 e-mail: henshawm@ruf.rice.edu