Oh my goodness! Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's..... fish! Welcome to Steve and Bill. I am very new too - still lurking. I don't as yet have my dwarfs - still researching. To read about you guys and others on this list and the beautiful fish you raise just turns me green! Where the heck do you get them? The only dwarf South Americans I have acutally seen live are ramirezi and altispinosa. Believe me it's not for lack of looking - my husband is giving me the old "Don't you think this is a little fanatic?" look. : ). I think I'm going to have to give serious thought to mail order. I'm a little nervous about mail order at this time of year - I'm from Canada eh - and it's getting cold. Anybody have any experience to share or maybe suppliers they have had good results with. Thanks. V.I.P. (Very Impatient Pisciculturist) Heather