A little while ago I bought three pairs of Apistos, of which one was clearly A. njesseni, one turned out to be A. maciliense (formerly a subspecies of trifasciata, if I understand well) and the third was still to small to say. Now that those are bigger, I think they match pretty well the characteristics of A. staecki (short lyrate tail with rows of spots, rather slender body, small size, dark blotches on the back, around the insertion of the dorsal fin). The only difference compared to the picture on of the book by Linke and Staeck is that the first 1-2 rays of the dorsal fin are black. If anybody has useful or interesting information on this species, I would appreciate to hear it. Also, they have already bred, in soft water, only moderately acidic and sometimes neutral (recently pH has been creeping up in my tanks, probably in consequence to changes in the tapwater). If anybody in the north NJ area is interested in exchanges, drop me an e-mail in January, to see how things are going. Incidentally, they are in a small tank (2.5 gal., one third for the male and the rest for the female, the filter and the heater. They seem quite comfortable in such small space, since anyway they do not move much away from their hiding spaces). The A. maciliense are now at their second spawn. After their first one, I separated the male behind a partition. The fry have been growing very slowly (at least compared to A. cacatuoides or L. curviceps), and three days ago I decided to move both parents to a 2.5 gal. Yesterday I saw the typical female defensive/aggressive behavior, and in fact there were eggs in the flowerpot. What surprised me was that of the 20 or so ramshorn snails in the tank, about 15 were by the eggs (the poor female was desperate!), and the size of the spawn was much smaller than last time. I interpreted it as if the snails were having a good dinner, and they promptly became a calcium-rich snack for my Discus (not that I feel good killing snails, but I have no place to put them). Several eggs survived, and now the female is watching them by herself (I moved the male back behind the partition of the original tank). One suspicion on which I would like to hear some feedback. I wonder if it is possible that if after spawning I keep the male and female separate for too long (say, 6-8 weeks), often once back together it takes a long time before the female lays eggs again. On the contrary, if I separate them only for few weeks, the promptly spawn again once re-united. Is this possible? Dionigi Maladorno dionigi.maladorno@roche.com This message presents personal opinions which are not necessarily those of my employer.