Hi Folks, To let you all know (esp. bay area apisto. enthusiasts), Justin at Ocean Aquarium here in San Francisco recently got a shipment of Apistogrammoides for a very reasonable price. I visited his store for the first time on Sunday- cool little place! Some of his eunotus were so colorful I thought they were a new macmasteri group species! Anyhow, the t-bars are in excellent condition, mine have acclimated well and vigorously displaying, eating baby brine and staking out territories. Hope to have a breeding report in the next few weeks.... If you're considering working with these I highly recommend this import. I still am thinking about some of Justin's fish displays, he maintains a large number of Apistos in one tank (30gal) and are really striking (20+adult male bitaeniata in one tank). I have always kept one pair/trio per tank, though Justin seems to do well with very high fish densities. Hmmmm... - - Steve Waldron