>Steve wrote: <snip> >>Species conservation for at >>least the hobby sake is a worthwhile goal, is there any organization >>willing to take the lead in supporting such effort? And Ed Pon replied: > Steve--What organizations come to mind? The first one that comes to > my mind is the Apistogramma Study Group, yet they are poorly > represented on this list. The communication medium necessary to > keep track of who wants to raise what species and who has what > species is reduced to snailmail (U.S. Postal). Meetings once a year > won't make this happen either if hobbyist participation is required. Your points are potentially well taken, so I tried to think of other groups that might make this work. ACA? Apparently not. Not all members are on-line, only one face-to-face meeting per year, and the rest of the communication is handled by US Mail. ACN, TFeX, NANFA, AKA? Some of these aren't on-line at all, their primary communication is by mail, and they have, at most, 1 business meeting per year to the best of my knowledge. But way, some of those groups ARE doing captive maintenance of endangered species. Hmm..... Maybe they aren't insurmountable odds if the membership believes in captive maintenance. And if you believe that on-line communication is vital to a successful effort (current programs providing evidence to the contrary), there is no reason that THIS group could not take the lead and allow other groups (such as the ASG) to support your efforts here. I went to a local aquarium society meeting last night (MARS for those of you in Northern CA) where the speaker was from the CA Dept of Fish and Game and spoke about how California's Endangered Species Act interacts with the Federal Endangered Species Act and how both interact with CITES. He also spoke in general terms about what would be necessary to set up a captive maintenance program and one of the keys would be a partnership with an accredited university program (such as might be provided through the UC and/or Cal State systems) for proper scientific study and oversight. Without that kind of participation, the US Wildlife Dept won't issue the import permits necessary to access Appendix I species (those most critically endangered) and access to Appendix II and III species (roughly analogous to "endangered" and "threatened" respectively) could be quite difficult. For what it's worth, I couldn't find ANY dwarf cichlids on the listing of Appendix I and Appendix II species I found on-line this morning. So as far as "endangered Apistogramma species" goes, it doesn't look like there are any currently recognized as being seriously threatened. - -- dj