>>What is the number one reason for any of you for keeping the fish you do?<< Geez! I really didn't mean to stir up a hornet's nest with my comments. There are two reasons I keep the cichlids I do, sentiment and opportunity. The sentimental side is what drew me to the Kribs and Rams. Back when I first kept community tanks as a teenager, these two species caught my eye in the books I read. My LFS just started to carry Africans when I left for school, so Zebras and M. auratus hold the same sway, but I don't have the tank or the time to keep them right now. As for opportunity, I have two species that I keep just because of happenstance. My pair of Gold Angels were given to me by a friend, Slim, when I visited his house one day, a very generous gift that enjoy very much. The A. borelli I obtained from Mike Jacobs from correspondence on the killies list. I had been lurking on the list for a while but still had no Apistos. I was going to the AKA's national convention in St. Louis. Mike is also into killies. Through email, we set up an exchange where I picked up a pair of killies from his short list in exchange for some of his fry. I still think I got the better half of the bargain. As an aside, it's folks like Slim and Mike that have made my return to the hobby such a pleasure. And they're not the only ones. there are the regulars on all of the lists and friends I've made at my local clubs. I'm not much of a breeder (yet), but it's because of these folks and the example they've set that I have given away the few fry I have raised to other newbies to help encourage them. Bill Vannerson http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/william_vannerson