I agree. I apologize to any offended I wish to keep this friendly. The whole point of this is to exchange ideas and share knowledge on Dwarf Cichlids. I do not want to create a scrappy environment. David Sanchez - ---Frauley/Elson wrote: > > Hi David, > This has always been a friendly list where we exchanged info and debated > politely. Lots of people on this list know lots of importers and > exporters, and some know none. > Both sides in this debate are very knowledgeable (I've seen it in > postings over the last while). > It may not be my place to say this, as an ordinary list member like > everyone else on the list, but could you tone it down? I've seen > disasters like the killies list where confrontation replaced debate and > caused massive losses of valuable members by creating a very scrappy > climate. > Let's express disagreement with mutual respect and a friendly tone... > -Gary > > > David Sanchez wrote: > > > > I believe we have spoken just recently, and You seemed to have no > > knowledge of the South American Importers here in Florida. Yet you > > seem to be an expert now? I believe you have many contacts with South > > American Exporters not Importers or you would understand. The fact is > > the fish are held here in the exporters tanks and then sent to > > Hollond, Japan, etc... If you want names and adresses e-mail me and we > > can talk these people are wholesale only and I dont want them to be > > flooded with calls from hobbyists. Again you are mistaken on your last > > point, many of the rare varieties are found as contaminents and under > > false names. I have the luxery of sifting through contaminents and > > have found Taeniacara candidi, A.viejita color form II, A.sp. Puerto > > narino and many others over the years. In fact many like A.jurensis, > > A.panduro(formaly pandurini), and D.maculatus come in under their name > > proper! As far the fish coming in emanciated they are held for a week > > by one of my better importers before being sent to Japan, he can do > > this because of the price he gets in this market. But they always come > > in looking thin, they have been through alot, most Americans will not > > buy this and thats why they are sent overseas. The bottom line is > > this; Yes,some South American Importers in Florida do send their > > overseas thats a fact! and Yes, you can find the rare species at those > > Importers. It is not easy but with patience you will find them. > > > > David Sanchez > > > > > > > > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com