Re: sp. "Opal"?

[Mike Jacobs <mfjacobs@geocities.com>]

Gary........I'll go you one better Gary......I personally know who Julio
is and what his contacts are and who he knows, he spend several hours at
my house talking apistos.  I also know who Dave Sanchez is and what he
knows and who he knows.  Let's put it this way Julio is too kind and
gentle a man to respond in the fashion necessary here and blow his own
horn, but I am not!!!!!......but understanding exactly what Gary is
talking about, the killie list, I will refrain from speaking unless the
attack on Julio should get worse.  Folks I have REALLY appreciated the
calmness of this list......let's talk, not berate someone when you know
not of what you speak.  The most important thing to understand is that
with all of the knowledge Julio has, and all of the contacts he has, he
would be the first person to sit down and LISTEN to you if you had
information he thought would be vital......and if it differed from his
information he would only like to discuss it not throw stones.....he is
a really gentle man!

Mike

Frauley/Elson wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> This has always been a friendly list where we exchanged info and debated
> politely. Lots of people on this list know lots of importers and
> exporters, and some know none.
> Both sides in this debate are very knowledgeable (I've seen it in
> postings over the last while).
> It may not be my place to say this, as an ordinary list member like
> everyone else on the list, but could you tone it down? I've seen
> disasters like the killies list where confrontation replaced debate and
> caused massive losses of valuable members by creating a very scrappy
> climate.
> Let's express disagreement with mutual respect and a friendly tone...
> -Gary
> 
> David Sanchez wrote:
> >
> > I believe we have spoken just recently, and You seemed to have no
> > knowledge of the South American Importers here in Florida. Yet you
> > seem to be an expert now? I believe you have many contacts with South
> > American Exporters not Importers or you would understand. The fact is
> > the fish are held here in  the exporters tanks and then sent to
> > Hollond, Japan, etc... If you want names and adresses e-mail me and we
> > can talk these people are wholesale only and I dont want them to be
> > flooded with calls from hobbyists. Again you are mistaken on your last
> > point, many of the rare varieties are found as contaminents and under
> > false names. I have the luxery of sifting through contaminents and
> > have found Taeniacara candidi, A.viejita color form II, A.sp. Puerto
> > narino and many others over the years. In fact many like A.jurensis,
> > A.panduro(formaly pandurini), and D.maculatus come in under their name
> > proper! As far the fish coming in emanciated they are held for a week
> > by one of my better importers before being sent to Japan, he can do
> > this because of the price he gets in this market. But they always come
> > in looking thin, they have been through alot, most Americans will not
> > buy this and thats why they are sent overseas. The bottom line is
> > this; Yes,some South American Importers in Florida do send their
> > overseas thats a fact! and Yes, you can find the rare species at those
> > Importers. It is not easy but with patience you will find them.
> >
> > David Sanchez
> >
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