Hi all, Some time ago I posted a question about unsuccessful spawning of my apisto A.cruzi. Female spawned several times, but all eggs became bad. General suggestion was to give the pair some time. Here is a progress report on these A.cruzi. Originally a pair of them was in 10g planted tank. Male was always chasing female, she always had shredded fins. They had 3 caves (coconut shell and 2 clay pots), male was living in the shell, female - in the central pot. After 5 unsucessful spawns I decided to try another female, and in she went. She was bigger then the first one, and old pair abused her, so most of the time she was hiding behind a filter. More, she disturbed the spawning cycle of small female, and she did not spawn by herself. After looking on this for a week, I convinced my husband that the problem was small volume, and we bought 26g, and moved our apistos in there. Small female immediately occupied now central coconut shell, male - - the whole tank and big female - all space behind filter. At this stage I started to suspect she has sort of mental problem, and I was wrong! Small female was so happy she spawned next day and couple of days later all eggs were gone. I put fine gravel into the new tank and before the spawn small female started to barricade herself in the shell. She was taking gravel from inside the shell, untill it had almost bare glass floor, and moved it to the entrance, untill the entry was 0.25 of an inch. She could slide in only on her side, and male could not slide at all! While she was busy building, big female occupied 1/3 of the tank - close to the filter, and with one clay pot. Anyway, the spawn was unsucessful again (6th one), and I decided it was a time to follow one wise advise to change male (my personal thanks to Olson's family). I called the shop and they agreed to exchange the male, and I was ready to do so, then started to work all-male conspiracy. My husband, usually very reluctant to any fish addition, agreed to ADD another male, not exchange them. OK, in went another male. Level of agression between males immediately came up, and new male stayed in the top inch of the tank in the darkest end of it. I did not like it, and old male went into 10g guppy tank.Next day new male decided he can go out and so he did. Boy, only then I understood fish really can have individuality! First of all, he was different in appearance. He has very thick lips (trait I did not like very much), and very red tail, he also has a thin red line around eyes, and blue speckles on cheeks, like other cruzi. He does not show any agression at all, and all females' fins are fine now, he is guarding the perimeter of the tank, visiting both females equally frequently (about every half an hour), looking and helping in females' barricade activity (bigger one also builded an inch high barrier in front of her cave), and moving this gravel around in the tank in his mouth. His appearance also subdued female-female agression, both females show breeding colors and this friday both have spawned! I checked the eggs the next day and only one was bad. Male continues to visit females' caves. Females tried to block his way in the beginning, but he ignored them completely, and now they do not even try to chase him away! The first male was beaten up pretty badly after each spawn. Now I have a happy family of three, today small female moved her eggs into another cave and in the evening they all turned wrigglers!! It is about 30 of them, and I saw ~60 eggs, she probably left some in the shell, because she is visiting both places. Bigger female is also doing great with her ~60 eggs, they are all fine and I expect them to be wrigglers tomorrow! (Her spawn was half a day later). Male is allowed to visit caves under strict supervision of females, and all the tetras are chased away by all three! None of females suffered a loss of an appetite after spawn and they are eating like little pigs (lot and messy). This is my first good spawn ever! A lot of work ahead for little moms and dad! I have infuzoria and cyclop culture for little ones and ready to start baby BS tomorrow. Wish me luck! 26g has pH 6.0, soft water (95% RO, 5% of "solid rock" of tap water), temperature during spawns was 80F, now 84F. What male/female ratio should I expect? Apisto's companions - 6 pristellas and 4 neons. Lots of light and plants. My 4 yo kid has her own guppy tank. Originally (2 months ago) it was with only couple of fancy tail guppys, and now we have more then 30 of them, and female is pregnant again. Lots of ghost shrimps are also in the tank, with some babies and they are fun to watch!