Try putting them in a tank that is about eye level and in an out of the way location. I can't see that you're doing anything wrong. Some fish are just too 'spooky' to feel comfortable in lower level tanks. Mike Francis Brian O'Carroll wrote: > Hi, this message, from Doug Brown, bounced. > > > Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:22:47 -0400 > > Message-Id: <l0310280db17e080fca4a@[150.220.5.14]> > > In-Reply-To: <l03102805b17de562a49d@[150.220.5.14]> > > References: <v03110700b17d550a1fc2@[205.219.150.63]> > > <35544754.58A9@online.no> <3550A250.2EDD@minet.ca> > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com > > From: Doug Brown <debrown@kodak.com> > > Subject: Help spawning luelingi > > > > I am interested in suggestions on how to get my A. luelingi to spawn. I > > have had no major problems getting my other apistos to spawn, but this pair > > is difficult and especially the male luelingi does not seem interested. > > > > They are in a 10G tank with 6 bloodfin tetras and 3 serpae tetras. There is > > lots of cover including a log, inverted clay flower pot, half coconut > > shell, a large clump of Java moss and numerous other plants. The female > > displayed her spawning colors once maybe 2 months ago (bright yellow, and > > lateral line changes to one black spot) but that's been it. Other than that > > the male mostly chases the female around (just a little) or keeps to his > > corner of the tank that he has staked out. He's the most skittish male > > apisto I've had and will hide at almost any sudden occurence. > > > > Water is currently peat filtered, pH=4.8 with a gH of 15 ppm. I have varied > > the water from pH=6.0 gH = 110ppm, to almost pure distilled water at pH=5.5 > > to what it is now. I have tried biweekly %25 water changes and weekly %40 > > water changes. I have fed them flakes, freeze dried and frozen bloodworms > > and frozen prawn eggs. I currently feed just the frozen foods. I've had > > luck with others by seperating them or moving them to a community tank for > > 2 weeks then moving them back together in a 10G tank with dithers. I > > haven't tried it with the luelingi yet as space is limited. > > > > Any help is appreciated. > > > > -Doug Brown > > debrown@kodak.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------