On Fri, 15 May 1998, Dave Gomberg wrote: > At 05:22 PM 5/15/1998 -0400, you wrote: > >My only > >other recommendation is that you can buy 55-65mm macro lenses used for as > >much as the close up attachments and get much better results. > > If you use such a short lens you will need to get the camera into the tank > with the fish. I had a 135 and it was barely long enough, I would not get > a 105 unless I was planning to restrict myself to big cichlids. A 200 (and > Nikon makes a nice 200 macro) is a great choice. Bring money. Sorry, gotta disagree with Dave on this one. I have a pentax 100mm macro (1:4), and it's just about perfect for apistos at its closest setting. With some of the larger species (such as our A. cruzi male), I have to back it off from 1:4 to about 1:6, and at that point, I'm starting to stand too far back from the tank to hold the flash in my other hand. For big cichlids, I end up going back to the 55mm with no closeup lenses on it. When I first got the lens, I found it's f/4.5 "full open" setting to be just a bit dark for my taste, though I've learned to adapt to it. Granted, I'm not using extension tubes here, but still... - Erik - --- Erik Olson eriko at wrq.com