Tim wrote; <<<<< DEAD TRIPLE RED. Can anybody give me a good reason why my male trip red just croaked? I fed him two days ago with brine shrimp and some worms twice daily from the garden and the next day he past on. I've been feeding the other male/female the same foods and there doing great. The tank is as follows ph 6.4 hardness 90ppm,temp 82* I thought that he got a bad worm but they all ate from the same worm,(cut into pieces). Any reason why? very confussed?####&%$@$#?. Thanks TIM. >>>>>>> I would suspect indigestion with intestinal blockage. Small fishes can die of excessive feedings of blackworms or earthworms, since they are so fond of them, that they eat a disproportionate amount. Especially the dominant fish in the tank. I would feed earthworms to apistos only if: 1) red compost worms are used. Garden worms have a skin that is much tougher and indigestible, even for bigger fishes 2) very small pieces are used, and only 1-2/day/fish Sorry for the loss Dionigi Maladorno dionigi.maladorno@roche.com This message presents personal opinions which are not necessarily those of my employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!