Ken Laidlaw wrote: > Hi, > > > A. sp. Blauglanz > > Sorry, I don't know any german so what does this mean? Ken, A. sp. Blauglanz (=Blue-sheen) is the name usually used for this fish. It was originally described by Koslowski in DCG-Informationen (journal of the German Cichlid Association) in 1984. It's used just like A. sp. Breitbinden. Very few people use Broad-banded Apisto for this species either. Ditto for A. sp. Smaragd (Emerald), Vierstreifen (4-stripe), Schwarzsaum (Black-edged), etc. I personally prefer to use the original name in whatever language it was originally named so that we don't have a glut of names for the same fish. This is what's being done with rift lake cichlids. Both the English & German speaking hobbyists , for example, use Tropheus sp. Yellow Kaiser instead of T. sp. Gelb Kaiser (in Germany) and T. sp. Yellow Emperor in English speaking countries. > More on this. Has anyone a list of the german species names > with translations. e.g rotpunkt means red spot. > Also does anyone have a cross-reference list that shoes > previously used species names against the proper name. > e.g. A. sp sunset is now a.atahualpa. > I think these would be good to have as a reference. > Thanks, > Ken. I've been doing this for the Apistogramma Study Group for over 10 years now. This "Nominal list of Apistogramma species" is published regularly in the Apisto-gram. There are plans for it being added to the ASG web page. It presently includes the names of 53 valid species and 91 undescribed, but published, species. This doesn't include unpublished trade names or spelling variations. That's a lot of apistos! The list includes the species name (with English translations if in another language), its original reference source (copies available to ASG members), its group/complex relationship, and distribution in the wild. The list also includes a list of invalid scientific names (like A. corumbae, A. ramirezi, & A. t. longirostris) and a list of the common names used for recently described species. This is all backed up by a reference list that fills 4+ pages. It's very comprehensive. I don't do all the leg work myself, but depend on other hobbyists as well (special thanks to Erik, Fred & Marco). Check with the Apistogramma Study Group for back issues with this list in it. Heck, join and get access to the updated versions. Mike Wise Tech. Ed. A.S.G. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!