Well, I'm just about there --that is, setting up a 75 gallon tank for apistos (probably nijsseni). Thanks to the Internet and advice, I'm concocting a 3-layer substrate and using a cable heating system. My question is regarding the top layer...sand or gravel? 1-2mm or 2-3? Do apistos care? Plants care, so should that be the priority? Thanks, Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!