Tim, I have free swimming sunsets. Come by the store on Monday afternoon and we can go take a look. They seem to be monogamous and both parents provide considerable parental care, guarding and defending the fry in unison. The aquarium hardware is a 120 gallon with an Eheim Pro 2227 and 2226, decorated with lots of driftwood and large Anubias Nana. Light is provided by Halogen Shop Light. The pH is 5.5, the Hardness is O (GH and KH), temperature is 84degrees. The female spawned in a knot on a piece of driftwood. She moved the hatched fry in to a tangled mass of Nana roots at about midnight Sat the 26th. This was the first I knew abouut the spawning! They are extremely aggressive toward the tank mates which include three Sterbai corys & Seven adult Altum Angels as well as two more female sunsets. For all intents and purposes the pair claims two thirds of the tank as theirs. Roger ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!