Years ago, I moved a 20 gallon, drained to 6cm and full of fish and plants on a 13 hour drive. Everything went well, as the tank sat in the back seat of the car, until 12 hours into our run when an animal ran out onto the highway. My sister-in-law, who was driving, slammed the brakes, and the fish slammed into the glass, in a series of tiny thuds. Rummy nose tetras can't take a good braining. Trust me on that. Does anyone in England sell fish helmets? -Gary In 1996 I moved 35 tanks at -20 with 18cm of fresh snow down. I didn't lose a fish. They're tougher than you think. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!