Hmm. I have always heard Ramerizi was a harem breeder. I was just guessing for curviceps. I found a pair of Ramerizi that were both at the peak of health and were defending a territory togethor in the store tank. I took them home and after a few days the male had chased the female so much that she died. It is great if they are monogamous but my experience confirmed the belief that they were harem breeders for me. I guess I'll get groups see if they pair off in quaratine and then sell the fish that don't pair up. Thank you very much this helps a lot. I am not planning on breeding but if they do it's great but my goal right now is a nice looking biotope (amazon in general) tank. Still will there agression be dangerous to the Maculatus? Also is mac. monogamous? From what I have gotten from Randy's page I think they are harem breeders. Lewis ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!