In a message dated 11/10/98 6:39:45 PM, William_Vannerson@ama-assn.org writes: <<"A species flock is a group of closely related species all living in the same ecosystem. As Greenwood (1974: 19) emphasized, "The term 'species flock' . . . should, strictly speaking, be applied to a species assemblage of monophyletic origin." The clear implication, then, is that a species flock evolved within the ecosystem from a single ancestral species by repeated speciation events.>> I don't see, by these standards, how this concept of "species flock"can be applied to the genus Apistogramma. In the first place, most species do not share the same ecosystem, that is , they are found in different rivers, even different drainages. I think it would be a huge stretch to count the Amazon Basin as one ecosystem. Secondly, as far as I know, those species that are found together are not the most closely related species. (Others will know better than I on this point, but it is important). Thus, they fail on two counts. A much better example would be the Galopogos finches, where a large number of current species obviously evolved from a single species. In terms of the Rift lake cichlids, there can probably be a case made for a number of species flocks in each lake. The implication is that when the lakes where formed there were originally only a few species present, each of which spawned a "flock" of related species to fill available ecological niches. Anyway, this is how I interpret the situation, based on the material quoted above. Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!