Re: A. norberti "Sunset" (was Apistos)

[Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>]

Jota Melgar wrote:

> Thanks for the detailed explanation Mike.
>
> >Personally, I look at A. atahualpa & A. norberti as being bridge species
> >intermediate between the two subcomplexes, since they exhibit features
> >characteristic of both.
>
> Good. I thought I was the only one not placing them in the nijsseni complex
> (subcomplex). I was leaning more towards cacatuoides but after your
> comments it seems to make more sense to consider it a bridge species,
> perhaps A. atahualpa closer to the cacatuoides complex (subcomplex) and A.
> norberti closer to the nijsseni complex (subcomplex).

I agree.

> On another note, two of the largest males of the eunotus complex species
> (possibly A. sp. Orangestreifen/ Orange-striped) that we collected this
> year near the Rio Nanay have begun developing lyreate caudal fins. I am
> also happy to report that we have 3 broods that are between 10 and 14 days
> old.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Julio
>

Great news. The short lyre tail is also found on a few other eunotus-complex
species. This is just another indication of how closely the macmasteri-group is
related to the eunotus complex, since both exhibit this feature along with
serrated dorsal lappets. Those of the eunotus complex are not as well developed,
of course.

Mike Wise



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