In a message dated 1/24/99 2:29:02 PM Central Standard Time, alexp@idirect.com writes: << Yes, and fish sent in massive shipments have a high mortality rate, especially when they are sold for very low prices to people who haven't got a clue as to how to take care of them. (And yes, when I was eleven years old, I did it wrong too). I realize that this is a big business. I also realize that it is the way in which many people world-wide make a living. >> I think you gave the best reason for raising fry away from their parents. I always pull the first spawn from any new Apisto, or other Cichlid for that matter, to insure I have the largest number of fry to distribute to other hobbyists. When I have "enough" I may allow the parents to raise their own fry or in most cases pass the pair to another person. This way I may do a small part to decrease the demand for wild caught fish, (which isn't my personal reason, I just like to have others enjoy a fish I have enjoyed). I have never found any conclusive evidence that artificially reared fry are less likely to exhibit the innate behavior of fry rearing than any other method. It took millions of years to develop those behaviors and would take millions of years to diminish the same behavior. Those are only excuses for your personal enjoyment of watching fry care and trying to impose or intimidate others into your view. I've been keeping & breeding fish for more than 40 years and my goal is to have fun and learn about my favorite hobby, not anthropomorphise my fish. Tom Wojtech ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!