Even better then the north west where it rains alot is the Adirondack Mountains of Northern New York state where our lakes and streams are soft and acidic thanks to all the industries of the midwest that add toxins to our air that makes for acid rain. My tap water is 6.8 pH and 60 ppm hardness. I can breed just about anything from South America or West Africa is my tap water. So move east where the beauty and peacefulness of the Mountains will keep you here forever. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!