In a message dated 1/25/99 1:02:52 PM Mountain Standard Time, mike@datawest.net writes: > If the colors and other physical characteristics of fish can be selected in > just a few generations, why can't behavior as well be selected in a short > span of time? > > Natural selection of a species of moth in England took less than 10 years. Because parenting characteristics are not the same as color. The color variation from fish to fish is not critical to survival, except in cases like the aforementioned moth where the soot darkened the trees, and the carker moths had a camoflage advantage. Parenting instincts have been critical for so long, that the genes controlling them have been virtually fixed, by virtue of the elimination over the millenia of the "bad parent" gene. If you breed a quality pair of black angels, you will never get back to the original silvers, because the gene for silver has been selectively eliminated. Likewise, the genes responsible for parenting instincts now dominate the distibution of the Apistogramma and related genera. The "bad parent gene-set {BPGS}", if I might call it that without a fight, has been diluted to the point that only one in a zillion fish carries it, if even that many. It appears that with Singapore rams the BPGS has managed to surface and has succeeded in dominating the bloodlines of those fish, They are more than likely a single bloodline that has been bred by egg-snatching, and the breeder who first started working with these fish just happened to get that one-in-a-zillion. That is certainly a possibility. However, with all the apisto-keepers raising their fish around the world, it is unlikely that bad parenting will survive in a given blood-line, and that that bloodline will come to dominate the market for that particular species. If a mass-breeding commercial effort like the one with the Singapore rams started out with the wrong one-in-a-zillion fish, it might happen. But if we work conscientiously with our fish, and exchange breeders with each other once in a while, that is not likely to happen with any Apisto in the near future. Not even if half of the fry in the hobby were artificially hatched. Bob Dixon ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!