Mike, I agree- I have often found even biologists get lost in the color of fishes- mostly the problem is ignoring the whole picture and not using all of the features in combination with color to make an ID. Ever try differentiating young salmonids? Right now my limited knowlege of Apistos and lack of literature is confusing the matter for me. The books Apisto books I have paroused (at the LFS- since I can't afford the outrageous prices they are charging- min $50) have shown various Apistos without showing any decent comparartive anatomy. What I need is a good well designed dichotomous key for the Apistogramma. Does such a thing exist (at least for the described species (or even the common ones)? I don't recall that Linke & Staeck describe the differences between the regani sexes (am I wrong). I have a keen eye for this sort of biological minutia- but I am lacking the necessary information to make the call. Is there a biological paper ( or somthing like this) that describes regani in detail. I am basically fairly certain that the three reganis that are similar are males- but I have a pair of A. borelli in the same tank and the three regani have behaviours that are more like the female borelli (in terms of activity as well as color markings) I assumed that Apistos would maintain behaviours peculiar to each sex across species (Bad assumption?). The one thing that is still clear is that I have no idea- but thanks just the same, I appreciate the help- I think these Apistos are very cool! Cory Williamson >Hope this makes a bit more sense. > >Mike Wise > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!