I was in a wholesaler today, and I saw for the first time a male of A. pandurini, before today I've seen them only on the TAG cover. Wow he was so beautiful!!!! but they didn't have a female!!!! They said a few sick specimens of pandurini came in with some A.nijsseni, but it's a very rare fish for them, so they don't know when they will have A.pandurini again. Here in Italy it's the first time I see them and I heard about them. For me it's pratically impossible to have a pair from US, I don't know anyone who would ship it to my country at a reasonable price. I'll wait :-(( Bye Simone Vicini (svicini@lcnet.it) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!