---IDMiamiBob@aol.com wrote: but my experience with cacatuoides and panduro have been > that the male and alpha female will both drive a second female to death in > tanks as large as 30 gallons, bare, well planted, lots of caves or only one, > species or community tanks. Matters not how I do it. Now calm down, Dave. That's MY experiencce, not yours. I'm not tryingto say you have it wrong. It's just that I and a number of others have moreluck in pairs. Actually Bob I breed my Apisto's in pairs. You stated that your pairs were "bonded" and they "missed each other" and "longed for each other", not to mention a comment you made last week "i'd be hesitant to use sand with apisto's because i've heard it will lock their jaws and kill them" I know that you have your experiences and thats cool but you seem to run into and respond to every question, honestly some of your comments have been questionable at best and its important that we dont perpetuate bad information for the benifit of those that are listening and learning. This is not a personal attack on you and i dont believe i need to calm down because i respect your experiences but when false or ,misleading information is stated I believe it is the responsability of the list to correct and clarify these errors for the benifit of everyone out there. No hard feelings Dave ---IDMiamiBob@aol.com wrote: > > Dave writes: > > > hell Bob my male borellii's, > > cacatoudies, agassizii's will spawn with as many females as they can > > get at. LOL This is common knowledge , and the foundation of the > > basics of Apisto keeping. > > Yep, I know this. And I have successfully kept borellis in trios and even > patriachal foursomes, but my experience with cacatuoides and panduro have been > that the male and alpha female will both drive a second female to death in > tanks as large as 30 gallons, bare, well planted, lots of caves or only one, > species or community tanks. Matters not how I do it. I haven't tried harems > with other species I have kept because I have always ended up with even sex > distributions or extra males and have sold off the extra females as pairs. > > Now calm down, Dave. That's MY experiencce, not yours. I'm not trying to say > you have it wrong. It's just that I and a number of others have more luck in > pairs. > > Bob > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!