I have inherited some pertensis-like apistos (thanks Dennis), but the males have prominent abdominal stripes ala regani. Is this normal for pertensis? I've never seen them in photos and my last batch of pertensis didn't have them. Some other features, uh rounded caudal, a definite gold-yellow cast (even the males) and the caudal spot on the females are oval and on the males kind of half moon shaped. -Doug Brown debrown@kodak.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!