Dear Phil, Where in the Dallas area did you find these? If you have any luck getting females please let me know from whom you ordered. By the way, since we last communicated I bought a trio of Apistogrammoides Pulcalpensis from Aquatek in Austin and spawned them in a 55G tank. Unfortunately the male died shortly thereafter (for reasons unknown) and so did many of the babies. However, I still have about seven or eight who are getting larger by the day. Thanks, Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!