They spawned- on saturday- probably about the same time I was downloading e-mail from the list- about the same time my hard-drive packed it in- I literally had to put it in the freezer to keep it cool enough to transfer the data off it onto a new drive- what a mess!!- Anyways- how long is it before I should expect to see the fry (@ 78 F) Cory Thanks to all the folks who helped me out with sexing the fish ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!